Clemens just reached Pete Rose level

[pvfan]

This is sick if it's true.


Clemens has affair with 15 year old.

Someone is corn-fused. I don't recall Rose screwing kids.

[pvfan]

I'm talking about overall scum bag level. No, Rose never had problems with kids but outside the game of baseball he had many problems.

Other than betting on his team to win? This guy used to come to the local little league clinics. He spoke at a Dryden ahtletic banquet(150 students 9-12, you KNOW we swelled his bank account), he was a real big deal [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]- you must have someone else in mind.

[Biggin]

trust me spuds, if pvfan is attacking ANY red, its gotta be serious


mindy mccready? rocket cant do better than a 15 yr old mediocre country singer?


his wife is hotter IMO

MMMM... I lived in Dayton till I was 12, followed the Big Red Machine till got down here and couldn't find them. WSWV in Pennington carried the games for a few years, got back into it a little, he is on the wrong guy. Reading books. The guy, Rose, came to the kid's camps in Cincy and Dayton. We are talking his whole career for me, history for someone else. Naw, I don't think you will sway me on this. Rose and Bench sold cars in the off-season cause they didn't make that much money...just like regular guys. That is what makes the oldtimes special, if Bench, Rose , Aaron- that group had been able to train all year? Rose got MVP one year, asked for more money- 100 grand to 107- Marge wouldn't go for it. Think about it, Nat. MVP, 7 grand, club wouldn't produce, but he didn't sell out on the town. This is what makes me sick about pro sports today. They wouldn't make a scratch on the old guys, community wise. I'd rather see the kids play at the high school level. They play for pride, that used to mean something in the pros ,too- but today's group are like the president, gimmie money!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Biggin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">trust me spuds, if pvfan is attacking ANY red, its gotta be serious


mindy mccready? rocket cant do better than a 15 yr old mediocre country singer?


his wife is hotter IMO </div></div>
But she ain't 15, neuter him!

[imported_Sportsman]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVFAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is sick if it's true.


Clemens has affair with 15 year old. </div></div>

Crimes against children are a whole other level than gambling on major league baseball. Rose's name shouldn't even be mentioned in comparison to this.

[pvfan]

I'm not a saint nor do I claim to be. Rose is guilty of a lot of things, tax fraud, gambling on a game he was involved, cheating on his wifes, and many more things. Agreed that none of these compare to crimes against kids. The point I was trying to make is that both are big baseball stars who will probably never be in the hall of fame for crimes they have committed. Roses with gambling and taxes and Clemons with steroids and now this.